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Apr 16, 2017 12:18 AM

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I didn't really plan to make a post this early but since my inactivity is raising suspicion, I guess I have no choice.

My strategy right now is to sit back and observe, since this is my first time. What I'm doing is reading back through people's previous posts in this thread, noting anything overtly noticable, and making a decision from there.

To clarify, it's not inactivity; it's patience.
Apr 16, 2017 1:38 AM

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Floofs said:
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PS: if you guys wondering why I pick either 1, 5, A, F as my choice.. when I get killed later on.. you will understand why hehe :)
like I said.. I dont mind losing since its my first game XD pretty much learning the situation :)


This is a bizarre post early in the game.


Welll its my first time playing this game floofs....err..... why bizzare tho?
well I asked Soren she said its ok so :o



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Apr 16, 2017 3:20 AM

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bmoore07 said:
I didn't really plan to make a post this early but since my inactivity is raising suspicion, I guess I have no choice.

My strategy right now is to sit back and observe, since this is my first time. What I'm doing is reading back through people's previous posts in this thread, noting anything overtly noticable, and making a decision from there.

To clarify, it's not inactivity; it's patience.


I get where you're coming from, but that makes you hard to read and could just be an excuse coming from scum.
I'd rather you interact a little more with others - because right now I can't form a good read on you yet. And that means you're neutral, and possibly scum in my eyes.


So if you're passive scum, just know that you can't get through this game so easily. I might vote for you later, just to make you talk more.

Apr 16, 2017 3:22 AM

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very much so. But not with out reason.and if it means anything, I get less random as the phases go on.

I see. ^^


CorruptedPurity said:
I am not participating in RVS. I said this many times before and am doing so now, for a lot of reasons. I rather not go through them again but if anyone has an issue with this, ping me and we can talk it out. Not really a big issue, I'll still be active and I'll still be scumhunting and voting before phase ends, but if you have something to discuss, now would be the time, don't come to me on D3 and say I'm scummy for not participating in RVS on D1.

Can you explain why? It’s been a while that we’ve played together, and I don’t remember this.

CorruptedPurity said:
Which Setup in the matrix-12 do you think is in play? If your answer is you don't know, then take a wild guess.

I have no idea.
Why do you want us to guess?
/edit
Hm my guess would be 5. @CorruptedPurity


Ruu said:
I don't like that I'm completely lost atm... nothing stands out :s
All I can say so far is that Gruffin and CP are not scum buddies but that's about it. Is hard to figure out the other players alignment since they still are trying to figure out the game.

The day is long, and it's not unusual for scum buddies to vote for each other.


@Oyasumi_Rosie
Is there a reason why you're not voting for anyone?

Nah, I developed this recently, I would reference you go Kitty,Alcatraz and Twins to check. I can't reference any ongoing games though but yeah...

Main reason is that I prefer to keep my vote with myself so that scum would still feel some pressure. Doesn't make sense right? A vote on scum would make more pressure on them, however, a vote on town would actually alleviate the pressure from them. Furthermore since I'm actively scumhunting, I can keep pressure on scum without casting my vote, and an uncasted vote also yields some pressure as scum are unsure whether I'll throw the vote their direction or not. That's the main concept on why I don't vote during RVS, however, I still acknowledge it is important and encourage others to participate in it, I just don't like casting my vote like that as I fear it will alleviate pressure away from scum.

Thanks for your answer, I'll edit it
Apr 16, 2017 3:24 AM

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logic340 said:
coromandel said:
@Oyasumi_Rosie
Is there a reason why you're not voting for anyone?
She is voting Grapefruit though...lol.
Seriously though Rosie votes Grapefruit at the beginning of every game whether he is in it or not. She is very fluffy especially D1. I love her antics and unless you can pitch a good case for scum Rosie I probably wont be voting here D1 because this is just how Rosie is and more importantly she makes the game so much more fun (imo ofc).

@CorruptedPurity can we work together to keep Rosie alive at least for another phase? You know how we do.


Ya... @coromandel dont touch her. At least not for this day... An attack against her is an attack against me... even if she attacks me...
Apr 16, 2017 3:25 AM

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Gruffin said:
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Before I continue, I would like to say that you haven't answered my question. Instead, I found this post more defensive against my idea rather than aggressive towards me. I asked what setup you think we're playing in. You can lie to me or tell me the truth, its wine either way. You can spin a wheel and RNG one of the option or you can take time considering the options. At this point of time, a VT could pick 2 setups with the same cop so that mafia will look at him instead of cop, cop can purposely pick those with 2 VTs so that mafia won't look at him, or they can just tell the truth, once again, its just wine. It also can help scumhunt for maf, wouldn't maf pick something they know won't exist so that later on when it flips, they can act clueless? Or did they foresee this and picked their exact setup just to wine with me? The possibilities of this play are infinite and I honestly doubt that this would hurt town. Scum has too much wine to digest and too many information to process, too many scenarios to run in their head... You get the point.
Yeah, I completely understand what you are saying here, I just felt that the risk of this strategy didn’t warrant the possible rewards. Like, there’s a lot of newer players here that probably don’t know the concept of WIFOM yet and I don’t want to risk things getting revealed too soon. So basically, I’m weighing what you have to gain/lose as town or mafia right now, and have determined that mafia has more to gain and less to lose than a townie would. So I’m trying to figure out if this means you are mafia or not.

I recognize this is starting to get into ideology/playstyle differences now and what’s done is done, so I’ll stop throwing a fit about it. I look forward to hearing what you’re able to glean from all this.
That brings me to my next point, you seem deflective about answering my question, it is kind of an investigative question. Once we get non-VT flips, we can look back on this post and see who posted what and use it in future investigations. Why are you not answering the question? Is there something you wish to hide? Not that hiding is bad, PRs need to hide to. Actually, don't answer that, just give me an answer about the setup. I told you how it can't be used against us, but we can use it in the future against maf, so please, an answer.
Pretty much? I’d prefer to remain mysterious at this point.
Consider my non-answering my own form of wine, heh.


Oooh, I like this answer... So it shall be Tuxedo Mask...
Apr 16, 2017 3:28 AM

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Mwiep said:

Yes that's true, but isn't it kind of risky for you now that Gruffin suspects you? So it's just your prefered playing style. I have to say that it must be an effective way, now that I know your reasons behind it.


Not really, this suspicion is not solid and I can justify my actions. If no one gets the wheel turning, I have to.
Apr 16, 2017 3:29 AM

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liz said:

@CorruptedPurity - "Sometimes I will make long chunky post and sometimes I will claim to be too lazy and make quick to-the-point kind of posts."
just curious but does this depend on your alignment, perhaps? or is it just random (i.e depending on your mood?)


Random, mood and situation (whether I'm at home or schooling or in the bus on mobile etc)
You really don't have more questions to ask me?
Apr 16, 2017 3:30 AM

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logic340 said:
@liz have you ever seen the movie The Princess Bride? This video below pretty much explains what Gruffin is talking about. This link help explain it as well.

Love this scene
Apr 16, 2017 3:34 AM

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Gruffin said:
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Some feedback would be appreciated :)
Is CP a scumread of yours? Curious because in this list it sounds like you think CP is scum while talking about people “covering” for him yet you do not come out and say that you suspect them.

And “wine” is another way of saying WIFOM, which is circular reasoning where you try to predict your opponent’s move and act accordingly. The best way to describe it is, “He probably thinks I’ll choose A, so I’ll choose B! But what if he knows I’ll do that? So I’ll choose A! But what if--” And so on. It can be used as any alignment to confuse the other.

/Edit: "WIFOM" stands for "Wine In Front Of Me", which is referring to the scene Logic posted.


Starting to realize this too. Some of them are semi-justifiable like logic but I dont see how Ruu is "covering" for me. And by using covering, you're implying I'm scum? You're only question to me didn't made sense, you asked me about my playstyle, why didn't you ask me what you found so suspicious about me that I needed "covering"?
Apr 16, 2017 3:35 AM

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Ive been quiet cause I was sleeping Coro XD its like 5:28 am here hehe... I let my pc on cause I was downloading something hehe XD

Mhh Im kinda agree cause it might be important for the next step like I said before to "see" others as well.. they guy that I vote hes been only posting once here XD if Im not mistaken... so I still gonna up my vote for him...

I see. ^^




Oyasumi_Rosie said:

Sorry I couldn't stop laughing because it seems that you thought I was one of the newbies.This is my... 9th game on this site. God knows how many games I've played know how trains work and how important it is to lynch D1.

This my thought, if you want me to vote with you, give me a good reason to agree with you. I am not going to vote for anyone simply because that is the thing I should do.


I didn't think you're a newbie at all. The first sentence was directed at you, the rest to everyone. And I added some explanations for the newbies.


"This my thought, if you want me to vote with you, give me a good reason to agree with you. I am not going to vote for anyone simply because that is the thing I should do."
I've already given a good reason: being voted for makes people talk, makes them nervous and more likely to make mistakes when mafia. There are no cons, because you can always remove your vote after all - so I don't really understand why you're hesitating to vote.

I wanted to bring attention to the fact that we haven't agreed on who should be lynched, + find out what people thought of trains, and how D1 should be handled in their opinion.
The votes haven't changed much since I made my post, and we're moving into last minute lynch* territory which is bad imo.

I'm not really satisfied with your reply, because you seem to be the "sit and wait" kind of player which makes it harder for me to read you, and we've already got a couple of those in this game.

Can you explain your motivation a little more? *why* is it that you don't want to vote for anyone right now? Because you think voting now will cause a mislynch?
Sorry if you've already answered this, but I know that you don't want to vote rn, just not *why*.


*Last minute lynch = the outcome of the lynch is decided in the last couple of minutes before phase change.

Apr 16, 2017 3:39 AM

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bmoore07 said:
I didn't really plan to make a post this early but since my inactivity is raising suspicion, I guess I have no choice.

My strategy right now is to sit back and observe, since this is my first time. What I'm doing is reading back through people's previous posts in this thread, noting anything overtly noticable, and making a decision from there.

To clarify, it's not inactivity; it's patience.


Wasn't my setup talk overtly noticable? How about Gruffin pushing onto me? Or Liz asking logic and Ruu why they are "covering" for me?

Also, announcing that you're lurking doesn't make lurking any better, eventually people are going to scumread you for it. Not pushing onto you, just a heads up.
Apr 16, 2017 3:41 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
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She is voting Grapefruit though...lol.
Seriously though Rosie votes Grapefruit at the beginning of every game whether he is in it or not. She is very fluffy especially D1. I love her antics and unless you can pitch a good case for scum Rosie I probably wont be voting here D1 because this is just how Rosie is and more importantly she makes the game so much more fun (imo ofc).

@CorruptedPurity can we work together to keep Rosie alive at least for another phase? You know how we do.


Ya... @coromandel dont touch her. At least not for this day... An attack against her is an attack against me... even if she attacks me...

I'll do whatever I like. >.>



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coromandel said:

I see. ^^



Can you explain why? It’s been a while that we’ve played together, and I don’t remember this.


I have no idea.
Why do you want us to guess?
/edit
Hm my guess would be 5. @CorruptedPurity



The day is long, and it's not unusual for scum buddies to vote for each other.


@Oyasumi_Rosie
Is there a reason why you're not voting for anyone?

Nah, I developed this recently, I would reference you go Kitty,Alcatraz and Twins to check. I can't reference any ongoing games though but yeah...

Main reason is that I prefer to keep my vote with myself so that scum would still feel some pressure. Doesn't make sense right? A vote on scum would make more pressure on them, however, a vote on town would actually alleviate the pressure from them. Furthermore since I'm actively scumhunting, I can keep pressure on scum without casting my vote, and an uncasted vote also yields some pressure as scum are unsure whether I'll throw the vote their direction or not. That's the main concept on why I don't vote during RVS, however, I still acknowledge it is important and encourage others to participate in it, I just don't like casting my vote like that as I fear it will alleviate pressure away from scum.

Thanks for your answer, I'll edit it

hm.. can't tell if this is just an elaborate excuse not to vote, but it does make a little sense. I still prefer my method, though.

Apr 16, 2017 3:45 AM

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This sucks, but I have to go now and probably won't be here during phase change. Got to go to a family dinner, and then a concert.

Hopefully I can post a little in between, we'll see.

Apr 16, 2017 3:45 AM

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@coromandel
Meh, if you see the games I referenced, I did the same shit as I'm doing now. But alot of ppl won't believe self meta so its fine too if you think I'm suspicious for it.

If it makes you feel better, I will most probably drop a vote soon, starting to form reads...

Also, once again, don't touch Rosie. (She's most prob TPR knowing her record Kappa)
Apr 16, 2017 3:48 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
@coromandel
Meh, if you see the games I referenced, I did the same shit as I'm doing now. But alot of ppl won't believe self meta so its fine too if you think I'm suspicious for it.

If it makes you feel better, I will most probably drop a vote soon, starting to form reads...

Also, once again, don't touch Rosie. (She's most prob TPR knowing her record Kappa)


CP.. what is TPR? :o



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Apr 16, 2017 3:51 AM

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Ive been quiet cause I was sleeping Coro XD its like 5:28 am here hehe... I let my pc on cause I was downloading something hehe XD

Mhh Im kinda agree cause it might be important for the next step like I said before to "see" others as well.. they guy that I vote hes been only posting once here XD if Im not mistaken... so I still gonna up my vote for him...

I see. ^^



Hehe :) well Im a newbie so... I never play this game irl or in any forum before :) so ya.. Im pretty noob haha :v
as well.. we have our own life as well.. at least dont make only one post XD :) and things will be okay hehe
just to let you know if you want to know our time diffrencess.. currently now is Sunday 5:51pm here hehe :) by the time I post this



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Apr 16, 2017 3:51 AM

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Third Party Role...
I made a list of possible TPRs earlier if you can find it
Apr 16, 2017 4:04 AM

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Ahh ok CP thank you :)



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Apr 16, 2017 4:14 AM

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liz said:
Ok so here are my thoughts so far:

@Ruu - still unsure, but I am curious as to why you brought up the Godfather role? also, the comment about CP and Gruffin not having an alignment stood out to me, could it just be that you are trying to cover for CP? idk maybe i just need some clarification as to why you made this statement

@logic340 - what is the point of trying to bring up previous games? i don't really see the point, then again could just be my lack of experience
also seems like you are trying to cover for CP...

@CorruptedPurity - "Sometimes I will make long chunky post and sometimes I will claim to be too lazy and make quick to-the-point kind of posts."
just curious but does this depend on your alignment, perhaps? or is it just random (i.e depending on your mood?)

@Gruffin - "Pretty much? I’d prefer to remain mysterious at this point.
Consider my non-answering my own form of wine, heh."
Could you explain to me what wine is?
still not sure if I should consider your behavior normal or suspicious, kinda leaning more towards suspicious atm though.



So you are questioning Ruu and Logic for "covering" me. Why? Look at the question you send to me, it doesn't make sense that you think I'm suspicious yet not want to put pressure on me. Why aren't you questioning me like Gruffin if you find me suspicious?

Again, you can ask Gruffin for her opinion on me more, try to see if I crack under pressure or simply to see if she's mudslinging without making sense. I can think of thousand other questions for her on top of asking what wine is.Then you consider her behaviour suspicious but not explain why. This is mudslinging. If you find her suspicious, again why don't you ask her a more developmental question too?

liz said:
Gruffin said:
Hello~
Once you're finished catching up, I'd like to ask you a couple questions.
1. Who is your top suspect and why?
2. What is your overall view on the game? (As in, when I say "Sailor Moon Mafia", what does your mind immediately go to? How do you feel about it?)


1. So far I don't have a top suspect but my previous post (#354) pretty much sums up who I find suspicious atm

2. As for my overall view of the game , I still don't know. Im just trying to learn as the game progresses.
I just see it as being a mafia game but with sailor moon characters.
How do I feel about it? Neutral, I guess. (tbh, I haven't watched sailor moon so...)


You found quite a number of people suspicious but don't have a top suspect? This sounds like scum trying to pretend to be active and scumhunting but sitting on the fence instead. Pick a side, tell me why said person is suspicious, make a case for them like I am for you now.

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Eufie said:


Well Ive said it up there already.... for me.. which is Im pretty sure.. 1 5 A F ...

so how about you?


Ok so I read the set up but I'm still confused on the various roles.
I would rather focus on figuring out mafia since I find that thinking about what setup is in play to be too confusing atm. Also bc I feel like I do not have enough information to make a guess yet since we are still on phase 1.
For now ill just take a wild guess and say maybe B? or 4?
Why did I make those choices? Wild guess.


Once I have gathered more info then hopefully i can make a more educated guess


If you read, alot of people mentioned that B is impossible. Why are you even mentioning it? Kinda forgivable because you're new and dunno what is innocent child but the fact that you still guessed B even though people mentioned that it is not possible just rung off to me.

Also, mentioned by Gruffin that you pointed alot of people suspicious but you never committed to a single one. This really makes me think you're scum pretending to scum-hunt. Instead of pushing, you go "I think he's suspicious, but its a gut feeling" or "she's suspicious but I may just be cynical". You have no conviction, you want to not get on anybody's bad side while still pretending to be actively inquiring. That's my opinion.

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@Eufie
Since you're online, please comment on what you think of my case. Does it make sense? Is it weird that I'm making this push? Do you think my push is justifiable? Lemme hear your thoughts.
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how is that suspicious? trying too hard to defend myself is what really suspicious imo


also i have some people in my suspicion list, but still need time to confirm things, i guess i'll wait 'till day 2


True, but then again each person has their own play style.
As for why I think that is suspicious, honestly it was more of a gut feeling.

Would you mind sharing what you think of everyone so far?

it's day 1, i don't wanna judge too quick
Gruffin said:
AbuHumaid said:
also i have some people in my suspicion list, but still need time to confirm things, i guess i'll wait 'till day 2
What is it that you need to confirm?

more evidence/intel
Apr 16, 2017 4:34 AM

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@Eufie
Since you're online, please comment on what you think of my case. Does it make sense? Is it weird that I'm making this push? Do you think my push is justifiable? Lemme hear your thoughts.


Ok so.. my native is not English so Im kinda having a hard time understanding the detailed things here and there so pretty much Im a noob haha.. but the way you suspect Liz was actually how I suspect her as well.. with that "wild guess" thing.. logically speaking lol... cause its just doesnt make sense to me XD also the way she try to make me seems suspicious with that only one quote from me eventho she said its only cynical.. either she is being true or she just try to point out things around to distract people to not pay attention to her hehe... so I was about to change my vote to her but Soren said only 1 vote per time so hehe.. ya I just stick with my vote :)

But about you.. like I said.. Im sure that you are either 100% town or 100% scum.. cause like other people seems "grey" to me actually... like from those posts... I could only guess A is either 30% of town etc... but for some reason I have this gut feeling that you are 100% town.. well I might be wrong haha :v

if you dont mind me asking.. which push btw? about Liz or to others?



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Eufie said:
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@Eufie
Since you're online, please comment on what you think of my case. Does it make sense? Is it weird that I'm making this push? Do you think my push is justifiable? Lemme hear your thoughts.


Ok so.. my native is not English so Im kinda having a hard time understanding the detailed things here and there so pretty much Im a noob haha.. but the way you suspect Liz was actually how I suspect her as well.. with that "wild guess" thing.. logically speaking lol... cause its just doesnt make sense to me XD also the way she try to make me seems suspicious with that only one quote from me eventho she said its only cynical.. either she is being true or she just try to point out things around to distract people to not pay attention to her hehe... so I was about to change my vote to her but Soren said only 1 vote per time so hehe.. ya I just stick with my vote :)

But about you.. like I said.. Im sure that you are either 100% town or 100% scum.. cause like other people seems "grey" to me actually... like from those posts... I could only guess A is either 30% of town etc... but for some reason I have this gut feeling that you are 100% town.. well I might be wrong haha :v

if you dont mind me asking.. which push btw? about Liz or to others?

It's fine, may I ask what's your native language though? I'm glad we had a mini mindmeld there. Also, just saying but you can change your vote at any time, you just can't vote 2 ppl at the same time. I like that you see me in black and white. But let's say theoretically if I lead a liz lynch and she turned out to be town, then tomorrow I lead another lynch but with proper justifications, would you stop and vote me then and there or trust me on it? There's no wrong answer, I just want to see what kind of player you are.

Also, the push I was refering to was the post I voted liz
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CorruptedPurity said:
Eufie said:


Ok so.. my native is not English so Im kinda having a hard time understanding the detailed things here and there so pretty much Im a noob haha.. but the way you suspect Liz was actually how I suspect her as well.. with that "wild guess" thing.. logically speaking lol... cause its just doesnt make sense to me XD also the way she try to make me seems suspicious with that only one quote from me eventho she said its only cynical.. either she is being true or she just try to point out things around to distract people to not pay attention to her hehe... so I was about to change my vote to her but Soren said only 1 vote per time so hehe.. ya I just stick with my vote :)

But about you.. like I said.. Im sure that you are either 100% town or 100% scum.. cause like other people seems "grey" to me actually... like from those posts... I could only guess A is either 30% of town etc... but for some reason I have this gut feeling that you are 100% town.. well I might be wrong haha :v

if you dont mind me asking.. which push btw? about Liz or to others?

It's fine, may I ask what's your native language though? I'm glad we had a mini mindmeld there. Also, just saying but you can change your vote at any time, you just can't vote 2 ppl at the same time. I like that you see me in black and white. But let's say theoretically if I lead a liz lynch and she turned out to be town, then tomorrow I lead another lynch but with proper justifications, would you stop and vote me then and there or trust me on it? There's no wrong answer, I just want to see what kind of player you are.

Also, the push I was refering to was the post I voted liz


My native is Indonesian CP :)
Well like I said before before.. first lynch will be a gamble right... as well for me to "see" another people reaction towards each other...
for me I trust myself pretty much hehe... if your reason of lynching someone is actually align with me then for me I will be okay... even if it turned out that its townperson like I said.. Im not into winning in this one cause Im still pretty much learning hehe as well as even if my first guess was wrong and you turned out to be 100% scum (which was my guess was also right at some point) like at least I learn XD about the interaction hehe .. there would need enough and sure reason for me to vote for someone... just like what I did with bmoore07 :)



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CorruptedPurity said:
liz said:
Ok so here are my thoughts so far:

@Ruu - still unsure, but I am curious as to why you brought up the Godfather role? also, the comment about CP and Gruffin not having an alignment stood out to me, could it just be that you are trying to cover for CP? idk maybe i just need some clarification as to why you made this statement

@logic340 - what is the point of trying to bring up previous games? i don't really see the point, then again could just be my lack of experience
also seems like you are trying to cover for CP...

@CorruptedPurity - "Sometimes I will make long chunky post and sometimes I will claim to be too lazy and make quick to-the-point kind of posts."
just curious but does this depend on your alignment, perhaps? or is it just random (i.e depending on your mood?)

@Gruffin - "Pretty much? I’d prefer to remain mysterious at this point.
Consider my non-answering my own form of wine, heh."
Could you explain to me what wine is?
still not sure if I should consider your behavior normal or suspicious, kinda leaning more towards suspicious atm though.



So you are questioning Ruu and Logic for "covering" me. Why? Look at the question you send to me, it doesn't make sense that you think I'm suspicious yet not want to put pressure on me. Why aren't you questioning me like Gruffin if you find me suspicious?

Again, you can ask Gruffin for her opinion on me more, try to see if I crack under pressure or simply to see if she's mudslinging without making sense. I can think of thousand other questions for her on top of asking what wine is.Then you consider her behaviour suspicious but not explain why. This is mudslinging. If you find her suspicious, again why don't you ask her a more developmental question too?

liz said:


1. So far I don't have a top suspect but my previous post (#354) pretty much sums up who I find suspicious atm

2. As for my overall view of the game , I still don't know. Im just trying to learn as the game progresses.
I just see it as being a mafia game but with sailor moon characters.
How do I feel about it? Neutral, I guess. (tbh, I haven't watched sailor moon so...)


You found quite a number of people suspicious but don't have a top suspect? This sounds like scum trying to pretend to be active and scumhunting but sitting on the fence instead. Pick a side, tell me why said person is suspicious, make a case for them like I am for you now.

liz said:


Ok so I read the set up but I'm still confused on the various roles.
I would rather focus on figuring out mafia since I find that thinking about what setup is in play to be too confusing atm. Also bc I feel like I do not have enough information to make a guess yet since we are still on phase 1.
For now ill just take a wild guess and say maybe B? or 4?
Why did I make those choices? Wild guess.


Once I have gathered more info then hopefully i can make a more educated guess


If you read, alot of people mentioned that B is impossible. Why are you even mentioning it? Kinda forgivable because you're new and dunno what is innocent child but the fact that you still guessed B even though people mentioned that it is not possible just rung off to me.

Also, mentioned by Gruffin that you pointed alot of people suspicious but you never committed to a single one. This really makes me think you're scum pretending to scum-hunt. Instead of pushing, you go "I think he's suspicious, but its a gut feeling" or "she's suspicious but I may just be cynical". You have no conviction, you want to not get on anybody's bad side while still pretending to be actively inquiring. That's my opinion.

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I do agree with CP, the way she says "I think he's suspicious, but its a gut feeling" or "she's suspicious but I may just be cynical" after a lot of statements makes her seem inconistent.
If we do lynch @liz and she turns out to be a townie, then the suspicion on CP will be raised. Since lots of you see CP as either 100% town or 100% scum this incident would maybe bring us more information, so it's not a bad choice to lynch her.

unvote because I'm not sure yet and want to know what the rest of you guys think.
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Mwiep said:
I do agree with CP, the way she says "I think he's suspicious, but its a gut feeling" or "she's suspicious but I may just be cynical" after a lot of statements makes her seem inconistent.
If we do lynch @liz and she turns out to be a townie, then the suspicion on CP will be raised. Since lots of you see CP as either 100% town or 100% scum this incident would maybe bring us more information, so it's not a bad choice to lynch her.

unvote because I'm not sure yet and want to know what the rest of you guys think.


This is interesting post from you tho Mwiep tbh...it seems like you are agree with CP but why need to wait for others opinion? how if other choose to not trust CP and he get killed but ended up that he actually a townie?



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Eufie said:
Mwiep said:
I do agree with CP, the way she says "I think he's suspicious, but its a gut feeling" or "she's suspicious but I may just be cynical" after a lot of statements makes her seem inconistent.
If we do lynch @liz and she turns out to be a townie, then the suspicion on CP will be raised. Since lots of you see CP as either 100% town or 100% scum this incident would maybe bring us more information, so it's not a bad choice to lynch her.

unvote because I'm not sure yet and want to know what the rest of you guys think.


This is interesting post from you tho Mwiep tbh...it seems like you are agree with CP but why need to wait for others opinion? how if other choose to not trust CP and he get killed but ended up that he actually a townie?

I just don't want to bluntly accuse someone xD Since it's just the first day it makes me want to approach things more carefully.
If CP gets killed as a townie, that'll make a lot of people feel lost. Since lots of you guys see him as the most suspicious one, and without him you wouldn't have a direction to go of from. It's also not wise to lynch CP just because he seems fishy, if he turns out to be a townie (and is still in the game) we would benefit a lot from him for his direct approach.
@Eufie I started to notice that you're getting a little less carefull, why is that?
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Mwiep said:
Eufie said:


This is interesting post from you tho Mwiep tbh...it seems like you are agree with CP but why need to wait for others opinion? how if other choose to not trust CP and he get killed but ended up that he actually a townie?

I just don't want to bluntly accuse someone xD Since it's just the first day it makes me want to approach things more carefully.
If CP gets killed as a townie, that'll make a lot of people feel lost. Since lots of you guys see him as the most suspicious one, and without him you wouldn't have a direction to go of from. It's also not wise to lynch CP just because he seems fishy, if he turns out to be a townie (and is still in the game) we would benefit a lot from him for his direct approach.
@Eufie I started to notice that you're getting a little less carefull, why is that?

Ahh I see make sense :)
Mhh do you think its bad as well? :o



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@CorruptedPurity

To be perfectly frank, the kind of behavior you're displaying is kind of a red flag.

Think about it; you're the one that seems to be the most eager to scumhunt. You seem to take some kind of ringleader position in all of this, with the other users backing you up on your activities. That, along with you being eager for others to confront you, means either you're confident as hell or, well, you know.
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Floofs said:


This is a bizarre post early in the game.


Welll its my first time playing this game floofs....err..... why bizzare tho?
well I asked Soren she said its ok so :o


If we look at ur statement as if you were telling the truth, it could show that you are either scum or a towny with a role. You wouldn't want to let the mafia know that you have a role since they would want to lynch townies with roles first. You also wouldn't want to give other players the idea that you are scum.
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Floofs said:
Eufie said:


Welll its my first time playing this game floofs....err..... why bizzare tho?
well I asked Soren she said its ok so :o


If we look at ur statement as if you were telling the truth, it could show that you are either scum or a towny with a role. You wouldn't want to let the mafia know that you have a role since they would want to lynch townies with roles first. You also wouldn't want to give other players the idea that you are scum.


Ahh I see... but would they take a risk of lynching me tho? if they do kill me in the night then I pretty much could be sure who it is to be the suspect haha :v even if I couldnt talk anymore :) well ya.. like I said earlier earlier earlier earliieerrrr... first who will be die is a gamble for lynch if there is any or either from night kill.. and by those if Im actually the one who die first.. well Ive said it up there in early early early post :) for whoever pay attention :) well since its my first game, Im not affraid of getting killed first and Im myself not affraid of losing first haha :v like I said earlier earlier earlier.. but ya thank you for the concern ^^

If I die.. I just wish that my death would be a hint hehe :)



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Eufie said:
Mwiep said:

I just don't want to bluntly accuse someone xD Since it's just the first day it makes me want to approach things more carefully.
If CP gets killed as a townie, that'll make a lot of people feel lost. Since lots of you guys see him as the most suspicious one, and without him you wouldn't have a direction to go of from. It's also not wise to lynch CP just because he seems fishy, if he turns out to be a townie (and is still in the game) we would benefit a lot from him for his direct approach.
@Eufie I started to notice that you're getting a little less carefull, why is that?

Ahh I see make sense :)
Mhh do you think its bad as well? :o

Honestly, yes. The fact that you bluntly said (in post #390 ) that you asked Soren for confirmation makes it seem like you're not a vanilla townie. It makes you hard to figure out which can be a good thing if you're scum, but I don't suspect you to be scum. Maybe you are in fact a townie with a role and this was not a well thought out move.
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Looks like there was some decent activity while I was sleeping. I just woke up I'll be back reading and I will share some thoughts shortly
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@CorruptedPurity

To be perfectly frank, the kind of behavior you're displaying is kind of a red flag.

Think about it; you're the one that seems to be the most eager to scumhunt. You seem to take some kind of ringleader position in all of this, with the other users backing you up on your activities. That, along with you being eager for others to confront you, means either you're confident as hell or, well, you know.

While I do like your sudden involvement and this post in particular because it's a good devil's advocate to keep me in check, I have to defend myself here. I do praise you for finding me suspicious on reasonable grounds though.

Eager to scumhunt is not a scum sign, although scum can fake it. With our votes scattered like seeds, I decided that I'm going to have to apply pressure somewhere and start a train or we're going to be divided by the end of the day and itll generally fall into a last hour chaos which is bad for town. Due to reasons stated above, I do believe that Liz has things to answer for and I believe that it is necessary that I push her into it. If I don't, who will? I can't be passive this game because town is generally lost and need to get somewhere. I don't mind if I get lynched because then you guys can analyse my interactions and get somewhere.

I'm not confident as hell, I want others to confront me because that's the best way to get people talking. Talking = more information and in a game where its an uninformed majority against an informed minority, information will always favor town. The point is to get people talking so we can make reads.
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Looks like there was some decent activity while I was sleeping. I just woke up I'll be back reading and I will share some thoughts shortly

Now I have to sleep. I won't be awake for phase change, I trust that you can handle it though. I managed to stir up something, let me know what you think of it.
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Ahh I see make sense :)
Mhh do you think its bad as well? :o

Honestly, yes. The fact that you bluntly said (in post #390 ) that you asked Soren for confirmation makes it seem like you're not a vanilla townie. It makes you hard to figure out which can be a good thing if you're scum, but I don't suspect you to be scum. Maybe you are in fact a townie with a role and this was not a well thought out move.


Well I was asking cause Im affraid it might against the rule about mentioning the PM that Soren first sent to us hehe XD since on the rule it said free to ask Soren anything hehe :) so ya Ive been asking Soren a lot XD haha so ya I was being like "Is this okay" "Is that okay" pretty much like a kid lol

Addition : Isnt it vanilla townie a role as well? :o Im actually confused with the term of "role" in here...
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Mwiep said:

Honestly, yes. The fact that you bluntly said (in post #390 ) that you asked Soren for confirmation makes it seem like you're not a vanilla townie. It makes you hard to figure out which can be a good thing if you're scum, but I don't suspect you to be scum. Maybe you are in fact a townie with a role and this was not a well thought out move.


Well I was asking cause Im affraid it might against the rule about mentioning the PM that Soren first sent to us hehe XD since on the rule it said free to ask Soren anything hehe :) so ya Ive been asking Soren a lot XD haha so ya I was being like "Is this okay" "Is that okay" pretty much like a kid lol

Oh okay~ That explains more, I thought you asked Soren just one specific thing. :P

addition: I meant a townie with special powers unlike the vanilla.
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Well I was asking cause Im affraid it might against the rule about mentioning the PM that Soren first sent to us hehe XD since on the rule it said free to ask Soren anything hehe :) so ya Ive been asking Soren a lot XD haha so ya I was being like "Is this okay" "Is that okay" pretty much like a kid lol

Oh okay~ That explains more, I thought you asked Soren just one specific thing. :P


haha nope XD if I could spam Soren if I want to.. its just Soren dont really active here so hehe :) but Mwiep isnt it Vanilla Townie a role as well? Im kinda still confused of the term "role" in here hehe
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Oh okay~ That explains more, I thought you asked Soren just one specific thing. :P


haha nope XD if I could spam Soren if I want to.. its just Soren dont really active here so hehe :) but Mwiep isnt it Vanilla Townie a role as well? Im kinda still confused of the term "role" in here hehe

Yes vanilla townie is a role, I just meant to say a townie with special powers. :P
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haha nope XD if I could spam Soren if I want to.. its just Soren dont really active here so hehe :) but Mwiep isnt it Vanilla Townie a role as well? Im kinda still confused of the term "role" in here hehe

Yes vanilla townie is a role, I just meant to say a townie with special powers. :P



Ahhhh.. that "special powers" seems scary :o I keep imagining power ranger with that HAHAHAHA :v OMG....



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Yes vanilla townie is a role, I just meant to say a townie with special powers. :P



Ahhhh.. that "special powers" seems scary :o I keep imagining power ranger with that HAHAHAHA :v OMG....

HAHAHAHA wow, now it's stuck in my head xD
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Okay....

I agree with CP. Her case is not super solid but it's a nice start point. Even thou I agree with her views I'm not sure we should lynch Liz on D1. I'm more worried about the lurkers. If you are new and you roll scum, lurking is your best option because you don't want to make mistakes. Sitting back and waiting for town to lynch each other is a nice way to survive imo.
bmoore07 is a red flag for me. So he is on my suspects list.
Eufie practically claimed to.have a pr. As scum doing that to survive is a common tactic (I've done it myself more than once) because people will leave you alone. The real issue comes if she survives the night. Because mafia wouldn't want to keep a pr alive. Yellow flag for now.

vote: bmoore07 let's go with my red flag...
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Okay....

I agree with CP. Her case is not super solid but it's a nice start point. Even thou I agree with her views I'm not sure we should lynch Liz on D1. I'm more worried about the lurkers. If you are new and you roll scum, lurking is your best option because you don't want to make mistakes. Sitting back and waiting for town to lynch each other is a nice way to survive imo.
bmoore07 is a red flag for me. So he is on my suspects list.
Eufie practically claimed to.have a pr. As scum doing that to survive is a common tactic (I've done it myself more than once) because people will leave you alone. The real issue comes if she survives the night. Because mafia wouldn't want to keep a pr alive. Yellow flag for now.

vote: bmoore07 let's go with my red flag...


Mhh what is pr btw? :o if you dont mind me asking? :o
hehe we got same vote :p



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Guys remember that we only got 6 hours before phase change. It's time to choose someone based on the information you've gather.
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Okay....

I agree with CP. Her case is not super solid but it's a nice start point. Even thou I agree with her views I'm not sure we should lynch Liz on D1. I'm more worried about the lurkers. If you are new and you roll scum, lurking is your best option because you don't want to make mistakes. Sitting back and waiting for town to lynch each other is a nice way to survive imo.
bmoore07 is a red flag for me. So he is on my suspects list.
Eufie practically claimed to.have a pr. As scum doing that to survive is a common tactic (I've done it myself more than once) because people will leave you alone. The real issue comes if she survives the night. Because mafia wouldn't want to keep a pr alive. Yellow flag for now.

vote: bmoore07 let's go with my red flag...


Mhh what is pr btw? :o if you dont mind me asking? :o


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Mhh what is pr btw? :o if you dont mind me asking? :o


Power Role (any role with an ability)


Ahh I see.. is vanilla townie include to be one? :o



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Power Role (any role with an ability)


Ahh I see.. is vanilla townie include to be one? :o


VT can only vote so no (:
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